This pneumonia thing is really frustrating. I get completely exhausted putting a load of laundry in. 9 days sick and 6 days of meds and I really feel no better. Back to the doctor tomorrow.
Anyway, one thing I am able to actually do is scroll through my Twitter feed and keep up on Facebook which sometimes falls by the wayside. While reading through last night PhD in Parenting had tweeted a link to this.
I went ahead and clicked on the link to the original blog and read what the woman had to say. As someone that was criticized for my viral post when many of those critics didn’t actually read what I had written, I felt it only fair to read her exact words. And sit with them for a minute. And then reread them.
I am saddened by what she had to say. Apparently she lives in a place riddled with the gays. It seems they are everywhere she goes, the pool, the park. And they are hugging. Sometimes even rubbing elbows in an effeminate way [I don't really think I know what that means so if someone wants to send me a youtube video of it, that'd be great.] She laments that gay marriage is allowed in her state and states that it is just one part of the larger secular agenda. [We do still have separation of church and state in the ol' USA, right? I want to make sure I didn't miss something while bedridden.] She seems to mostly object to these things happening in front of her kids. It is immoral.
Well, hmmm. Firstly, there are a lot of things that happen out in the real world that I don’t want to explain to my kids. That I’m not ready to explain to my kids. But if it happens, and questions arise, I will. For example, we took Peanut to the MU/KU football game last year. The lovely folks sitting next to us were very inebriated to the point that one vomited. Awesome. And we took the boys to a T-Bones game where a gentleman behind us proceeded to make very loud, very racist comments. The Detective and I answered the kids questions honestly and briefly. Always telling the truth, but not going into any more detail than was necessary.
Also, it doesn’t appear from her post that her kids actually questioned what they saw, much less even noticed. So her fears were not realized. For now at least. She seems to think the best response is to not leave the house anymore. I think that may be a bit extreme. I mean, if they happen to ask, couldn’t she just say that some families are different than theirs and leave it at that? Families are more than a man, a woman, and 2.5 kids now. There are blended families, same sex parents, interracial, intergenerational, mixed religions, foster kids, no kids, single parents, you name it. And they are all ok. Family is family.
Kids should be out in the real world. Kids should see that there are many different kinds of people out there. They should see folks of all sizes, all colors, all religions, all abilities, and all everything. A mother in Uganda loves her children just as much as the blogger. The couple at the park, the parents from the mosque down the street, the Army man that was just deployed, we all love our kids. And we too want what is best for our kids. We are a world that seems to focus on differences when really we are more alike than different. We all want to love and be loved.
And that includes the roving gangs of gays and lesbians in her Massachusetts towns. I, for one, think that we could use a lot less hate/spite/intolerance and a whole lot more love/compassion/empathy.
She also lists a couple of crimes committed by gays/illegal immigrants. [I'm not sure how the illegal immigrants and the gays were lumped into the same category, but whatev. Her blog, her rules.] I would like to point out, as the wife of a police officer, that crime is an equal opportunity occupation. There are even Catholic, hetero, mothers of 7 that have done some illegal things.
I am also saddened by the fact that her post begins with an update regarding hateful comments she is receiving. I certainly received my fair share calling me terrible names, suggesting my shorties should be removed from my care, and even calling Boo vile, hateful things. I am just fine with people having differing opinions as long as they are presented with a modicum of respect. Once you start name calling and threatening, you’ve lost all legitimacy. And you make them feel even more justified in their views. We won’t change the world with force and fire. We need reason and understanding.
The part that I find the most intriguing though is that she seems so frightened by these folks that are doing exactly the same things she is. They are hanging out by the pool with their partners and pushing their sons on the swings. Is that the part that scares her the most?
That they really are just like her.
P.S. Are there roving gangs of the gay running around somewhere? If so, how does one get a membership?


I live in Massachusetts. I wish I knew what town had the roving bands of gays before I bought my condo. Everyday would be like a pride parade…that sounds pretty good to me :^)
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Roving gangs of gays? lol. I guess you could say my daughter and her other LGBTQ/Straight/Ally friends are one. And just this past weekend they were roving the campus of SMU in Winona MN. Last night they were roving in Burnsville and Eagan. But, I bet if you had seen them, you would have thought that they were just a bunch of girls and guys who like to hang out and have fun. (And I bet they would let you join - the even let me on occasion.)
If you find a roving KC gaggle, let me know. I’ll totally join AND bring along my lebanese daughter and her girlfriend (*snort* that’s what girlfriend’s younger brother calls them). I can also probably recruit many others to join in the gay frivolities…the best sort of times.
Thank you! <3<3<3
Once again you have hit it spot on! Thank you for using the voice God gave you. And, feel better soon.
Just a quick correction: we gays might do a lot of things, but please, don’t refer to groups of us as “a gang of gays”. The correct phrase would be “a gaggle of gays”. It’s much more festive phrase, and we are nothing if not festive!
You, my dear, need to join the gaggle!
I kinda feel sorry for her — she’s trapped in a fearful, sad, isolated little bubble of her own making.
It saddens me that someone can be so consumed by fear…she is breathing but has not even begun to live…so sad.
Well, don’t worry about hating the haters because you will sort it out and grow compassion instead because you clearly think and care. Only good people worry about being good.
John and I live in a str8 ghetto and always have. We are not the only gays in the village but we don’t know any apart from John’s work colleagues and a couple of lesbian friends. Who knows? Maybe we’d like a Roving Gang of Gays? Certainly prefer that to a Roving Gang of Religious Fundy Nutters.
This woman offends me on so many levels. Bet she hasn’t slagged off dear old Popy for shielding paedophiles or the priests and nuns responsible. Besides which str8′s have been into sodomy far longer than any gay men have! (And guess what? being gay isn’t about sodomy anyway. I can feel a fit of serious pique coming on so I shall stop now lest I sound as crazy as she….)
I don’t hate anyone, except the haters, which I guess makes me a hater, so I must hate myself, but I don’t hate myself at all, so now I’m just confused…
I would love to hang out with a roving gang of gays. What could possibly be more fun than that?
The whole thing makes me wonder where she learned to fear Teh Gays in the first place. There was never a clearer definition of homoPHOBIA.
When John, my husband of 30 years now, I am going to tell him how we can spice up our sex life. Rub elbows!
Her outlook makes me so sad. I am… oddly numb and having trouble formulating a reply. What I want for my daughter more than anything is to spend her life surrounded by true love in any form. Why is love that doesn’t look exactly like hers so scary to her? Why does it frighten her that she would have to explain two loving parents of any gender to her kids?
I lave long eschewed organized religion because of intolerance. I loathe it that Jesus is used as an excuse for fear, hate and exclusion.
I would LOVE to join a roving gang of gays. Becoming a stay at home mom has limited my social life. If they could manage to rove my way with a shaker of martinis and some raucous fun, I’d provide food and a swimming pool.
What kills me is when people speak of how “unnatural” gay relationships are. One comment on her blog stated:
“Straight couples who are in sin are at least involved in an attraction which is ordered properly and is a natural inclination. They are still sinning, of course, but their attraction is not disordered and against the natural law.
Gay couples do not have ordered attractions. When they act on those attractions, they act against the natural law.”
Is that natural law the ability to reproduce? Sure, I agree. Gay couples cannot reproduce with each other. But what about straight couples who have infertility issues. If they go for infertility treatments to conceive, are they being unnatural? Nature has told them they can’t reproduce. Should we not allow them to be together? Of course not! That’s absurd. So the whole “natural law”/reproduction issue is null in my opinion.
She will never change her opinion, so she should move to a place where she will feel more comfortable.
I find it particularly ironic that her blog is entitled “accepting abundance” since she seems to be unable to accept anything outside of her own opinions.
How boring this world would be if we were all the same. How unfortunate to not be able to talk to your kids about things that make you uncomfortable. Her post just makes me sad for her, her kids and society.
Personally, I’m offended by someone having 7 kids. I have an environmental science degree (that I don’t use), and the idea of having so many kids, especially in a country where we overuse resources, is very hard for me to comprehend. What’s more immoral - a couple enjoying their child or someone creating such a huge drain on resources? I guess it’s all perspective.
I live in a very gay-friendly town (Bloomington, IN) in the midst of a very red state. I run into different sides of debates like these all the time, sometimes with my in-laws, who are a bit born-again. All the ‘different’ families (not just gay couples but all sorts of different) don’t even phase my 3 and 4 year olds. Kids accept. They aren’t rigid and intolerant until we teach them. And we try to teach ours acceptance, which I like a lot more than tolerance.
Great post.
The whole thing saddens me. First, that someone who seems like an otherwise reasonable person would be so unreasonable about a simple fact of life. Secondly, that so many people would exhibit such hateful behavior in response. The woman needs counseling, not name-calling and death threats.
I agree. I really think the name calling and hate diminishes the true argument for tolerance.
Yet another reason I love you. Intolerance, fear and ignorance are everything that’s wrong with the world, these days. I wanted to leave the woman an encouraging message when I saw the post about her on Towleroad last night, but she had turned off her comments. I wanted to tell her that she needs to open her heart and mind; accept that some people are different and be open with her children about that fact. I worry that her children will grow up fearful and ignorant, as well.
I’m so glad there are moms like you out there. And speaking of moms lie you, have you seen this:
http://getstooobsessed.tumblr.com/post/9004061623/mommy-they-are-just-like-me-my-oldest-son-is
PS - I would so join your gang (or gaggle) of gays if I lived in NYC!
As a straight divorced mom, I teach my daughter that having family is a precious thing. It does not matter what form a family looks like. Love is love.
If I rub elbows with my friend, or gasp, my gay friends, does that make me gay?
It sounds as if this woman has too much time on her hands to judge other people. Perhaps she should do some volunteer work and make a positive difference instead.
Yes, I think it means you’re gay. ;)
When my daughter was 4-years-old she asked me why her good friend got to have 2 mommies and she didn’t. In her eyes that would be awesome! We explained that families are made up of all different combinations of people and her friend is indeed very lucky.
I am proud to live in Massachusetts because of the tolerance that is embraced here. Obviously not embraced by everyone but those intolerant people deserve tolerance as well.
Perhaps we should be more worried about the roving gangs of intolerants!
They are certainly the ones that worry me.
And how do I explain the homophobes to my kid if he questions me?
To save me having to think up the answer to this, I think everyone who isn’t me should stay home.
I too wonder about this elbow rubbing. Maybe she has a “thing” about elbows? Or maybe their elbows were dry and scaly, hence her use of the word “gruesome” or her confusion about gays and illegals? I am flummoxed.
I will ask my friends Jay and Neil how we get membership into their gang of wild rovers.
I’ve been nothing but encouraged by kids and their comments about me, my husband and our (almost 2 year-old) son. No need to fear, parents. Kids are smart, resilient, and for the most part don’t care how different you are. They just want to know what’s what. A couple of examples:
1. At a family wedding this summer, my son’s 7 year-old cousin told his younger brother (who’s 4) “I wish I had 2 dads. That would be so fun!”
2. Every morning when my husband takes our son to daycare, we have a family hug. Then one day — totally uninitiated — he put a little, chubby hand on the back of each of our heads and pushed us together to kiss.
Great post, and thanks for being such a friend to us roving gangs.
Those are the sweetest little anecdotal stories. Now, please add elbow rubbing into your repertoire.
Oh no the gays!! They’re taking over our state!!
I’m from Massachusetts and as someone from her state who also is Catholic, I’m embarrassed that we have any connection at all. (Plus, if there were as many openly gay people “flaunting” their gayness in my state it would be a much more fabulous place to be. Man, I only wish Also, I want to see more elbow rubbing. Maybe if we all rubbed elbows the world would be a much better place?)
It makes me sad that she not only writes this trash but then defends it. What a horrible existence.
I love this more elbow rubbing idea!!!
Nerdy, I just love reading your blog. You present compassion in such straightforward terms that it’s hard to defy.
Wow, that’s one of the nicest compliments anyone has given me. Thank you kindly.
Hmmm…. Roving gangs of gay people. I lived in San Francisco, roamed the Castro many times, and yet have never encountered even one such gang. How funny.
We know these comments stem from fear. And as mature adults, we sort of owe it to our kids to face down our fears, admit to them, try to get over them. Because otherwise we’re teaching our kids to act out of ignorance and to lash out when afraid. Instead of thinking, reasoning, and trying to be our best selves. We all have fears; the question is, are we evolved enough to face them?
Thanks for your awesome post.
Perhaps you need to be more vigilant in your hunt for the gays. I’m afraid you aren’t looking hard enough. After al, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE! Keep me posted on your findings.
I see she has blocked any new comments. Just as well. Does she have any comprehension that “they” are also paying taxes? No, that’s right….they’re criminals after all. I seriously feel that this woman is in need of therapy. She states that she is now such a state of “jumpiness” that she fears going out in public. All over a wee bit of affection and parental love being displayed. That’s pretty disturbed. Those poor seven kids. That’s all I have to say.
Yet again, a lovely post!
Thank you for being “one of those” parents who actually knows what parenting is.
Thank you for being ‘one of those’ people that comment. ;)
“The part that I find the most intriguing though is that she seems so frightened by these folks that are doing exactly the same things she is. They are hanging out by the pool with their partners and pushing their sons on the swings. Is that the part that scares her the most?
That they really are just like her.”
Nerdy, once again you end with such a powerful idea and thought provoking question. Bravo. Reposted…
Don’t listen to stupid ignorant people like the one you are talking about. I am a married straight mother of 3 and I have to explain all sorts of things, but being gay has not been one of them. If Americans are free to be fat, ignorant, lazy, and Judgmental then gay people should be allowed to LOVE. That’s all they are doing.
Don’t you go bringing logic and sensibilities into tis now.
This is someone wanting to feel a victim and find someone to blame problems on and logic does not belong here.
I second that. You can’t bring reason and logic to a moron’s mentality.
You will just end up banging your head on close objects which won’t do any good to anyone.
We need you sharp and on point for us!
:)
I heart you. I would second everything you wrote. With thanks.
Know that you’re not alone in this world.
I wonder what the initiation is for the Roving Gangs of Gays? I’m from NJ but maybe I can start one here. As a single, white, lesbian mom of a Black/African-American22-month old boy, I coud use some frinends from the Gang. I am heading to MA in a few weeks for one of “those” weddings. Maybe I can touch base with a gang member!
Oh no, you’re totally going to Hell. You can’t be a lesbian, single mother of a black kid! What were you thinking!!
((end sarcasm))
Now, to the real stuff — thank you! A lot!
As the (30 year old) daughter of a lesbian couple I was particularly offended by her categorization of her “all under the age of eight” daughters as being too young to understand why a baby would have two mommies. No child is ever too young to understand love in any of it’s forms.
All I have to say is thank God your child has YOU for a Mom and let’s hope that bitterhateful woman has none! Yes as the mom of 2 wonderful boys (one straight and one gay) I would also like membership!
I need to hope that people like her are fewer a
bs fewer as time educates people and they learn the true meaning of love and start respecting everyone’s rights to love and Live!
Thank you for such a timely post. I live in Mass and will now need to keep my eye out for these roving bands of gays. Might they break into my home to give me decorating tips? I was at a park yesterday and noticed no effeminate elbow rubbing, does this happen only in pool areas? Are gay men going to start wearing pink forcing me to explain to my 6 year old that they are GAY (and that no papa isn’t gay, he just likes pink). You can’t even begin to know the horror of a state that allows gay marriage. Friends that I once lived with decided to get married, they BOTH wore tuxes, they HAD PEOPLE in their back yard, there was CAKE…the horror! I don’t know how we even got through the ceremony.
It frightens me to know that people like that live in MY community. That someday I am going to have to explain to my son what bigotry and hatred are, and why people (god forbid a friends parent) act the way they do.
Wonderful post. I don’t know you (though I’d love to have coffee/tea someday!), but your original post about Boo stole my heart. I’m so happy that your children have you and the Detective - they will be making the world a better place.
Oh, how I long to be accepted by one of those gangs. *sigh
And, is rubbing elbows the new sign our something? I may have confused a lot of my friends with all the, what I thought was, harmless hugs and rubs. hmmm